A Message to Conservatives About the Progressive Coalition

Canadians vote on policies through local representatives–not governments. The 44% of Canadians that voted for the NDP and Liberal policies have more support than the 36% that voted for George Bush’s failed ideas. Period.

This is not a case of 5,205,334 vs. 75 making back-room deals. It is in fact 6,149,000 Canadians vs 5,208,000, or 7,528,000 vs. 5,208,000 if we include voters for the Bloc as well. In total, 8,466,000 Canadians voted against neo-conservative ideology just two months ago. Get the numbers straight.

There is also a tremendous amount of anti-Quebec language coming from Conservatives. First they say that the Bloc (and therefore all its supporters) are un-Canadian, then they say that this deal was put together exclusively by a Quebec conspiracy. And they wonder why some Quebecers want to separate from Canada… Harpercons, if you don’t like the Bloc–why don’t you beat them in the next election, instead of sleeping with biker chicks? = O

And why do you Alberta Reformers and northern Republicans call yourself “Tories” anyways? Tories are supposed to protect our parliamentary democracy, our constitution, and federalism–not destroy them.

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8 responses to “A Message to Conservatives About the Progressive Coalition

  1. “And they wonder why some Quebecers want to separate from Canada… ”

    Are you seriously blaming separatist sentiment in Quebec on people that don’t appreciate the martyr syndrome from the province? Would you be as “tolerant” of Western separatist sentiment provoked by complaints of attitudes of Western Canadians. Apparently, all they need to do is say they’ve been insulted so it’s OK.

    So you were trying to find GPC membership numbers on the GPC blogs over the past year or so. Did you get information on how bad the membership decline under May has been?

  2. You are being a little deceptive with you numbers Daniel..

    You assume that Canadians voted one of two ways – in fact it was 1 of 5 ways.

    We go by seats in Canada:

    Canadians voted in Conservatives with 2 to 1 margin against the Liberals;

    Conservatives were elected with a 3 to 1 margin against the ND.

    And because we can’t vote for the BQ, they don’t count as a choice. They are a provincial party that couldn’t be allowed in a Canadian parliament unless they run in other provinces.

    The Anti-Quebec language is a reaction to Quebec being anti-Canadian. Their vote show this clearly.

  3. thequantumbuddha

    Blair, you are the one who is being deceptive, 6 out of 10 Canadians voted for the policies of the Liberals, NDP, Bloc and Greens.

    In the Westminster parliamentary system, the people vote for representatives–not governments. The majority of seats–less than two months ago–were won by representatives with the policies of the Liberals, NDP or Bloc. That’s called a mandate.

  4. “6-7 out of 10 Canadians voted for the policies of the Liberals, NDP, Bloc and Greens”

    You cannot treat them logically as a single entity unless you ran as a single entity in an election campaign. Voters did not have 4 votes and they did not vote the buck nighty-five coalition so your statement is an extrapolation from previous results.

    You seem to be using the language of George Bush. People are not anti-Quebec by criticizing the BQ, they are simply criticizing the policies of the BQ to give up on Canada.

    I repeat the question. What did you find on the GPC membership numbers for the past couple of years?

  5. wrong again..
    you keep joining the NDP. Liberals, Bloc and Green together – they are different parties.

    Do the math my friend..

    Canadians overwhelmingly voted for the Conservatives. The problem is that Quebec has a Bloc party that is provincial. Remove them and we have a majority.

  6. thequantumbuddha

    “Canadians overwhelmingly voted for the Conservatives.” That’s news to me. The election results I’ve seen say Conservatives lost 165,000 voters from 2006 and only received 143 seats (a minority).

    And I remind you that in Canada’s electoral system, people don’t vote for Leaders or Governments. The ballot has the name of the candidate and party. To vote For Stephen Harper you need to live in Calgary.

  7. thequantumbuddha

    Brian,

    Read the comment above from one of your anti-Quebec buddies. “The Anti-Quebec language is a reaction to Quebec being anti-Canadian. Their vote show this clearly.”

    Don’t claim to be pro-Quebec while telling them they have no right to vote for the “Un-Candadian” Bloc, or that the Bloc voters have no right to be part of a coalition.

    As far as GPC membership figures, I don’t have access to the data. Do you?

  8. “And I remind you that in Canada’s electoral system, people don’t vote for Leaders or Governments. ”

    Are you 100% certain about that? You think all those people are voting for the exception skillset of Hedy Fry or Andrew Telegdi? People make their voting choice amongst a variety of factors – one is the qualifications of the candidate and one is the stance of the party.

    As an ex-Green, I found your earlier post that 2000 memberships have gone walking under Elizabeth May…one of them myself.

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