Lefty Man-haters

Here is a wall post from Facebook that is weird, crazy, hilarious and…  What’s that, Darcy Higgins? (Green Party of Ontario Director of Policy and Communications)

Darcy Higgins Am saddened by the actions of violent men in this decade

Yesterday at 4:06pm · Comment · Like

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Dan Mick Why just the men?

Yesterday at 4:07pm ·

Darcy Higgins the ones who thought out and initiated wars were men, perhaps Rice aside

Yesterday at 4:10pm

Dan Mick So you are okay with, or glad, about the actions of violent women? Is tomorrow’s status going to be that you are “saddened by the actions of violent black people in this decade” ? No? What about “violent Jews”? No? “Gays?” No? Then why do you think it is okay to put “men”?

I am offended–singling out “men” is sexism. Try: “…saddened by the actions of violent people…”

Yesterday at 4:31pm ·

Mark Fernandez these violent actions will cause sadness in our communities and must be overcome. mobilization through unbiased education is key for a start towards a true peace in our world on a macro level and it starts on a micro level in the communities we live in.

Yesterday at 4:40pm

Harry Pedersen Mr Mick is quite right in his post.

Yesterday at 5:17pm

Angela Read Unfortunately, the stats .overwhelmingly. show the actions of men as violent. Just saying…now don’t throw anything at me. <runs>

Yesterday at 5:29pm

Susan Gapka An ‘ism’ operates when a specific identifiable group, experience disadvantage based upon a personal characteristic (women). For example, men are privileged through ‘patriarchy’ (the rule of men) and exploit women through ‘sexism’. Therefore, a claim of sexism against men cannot be supported and its claim may itself be sexist.

Happy Holidays!

Yesterday at 6:04pm

Kris M. Agard AWWW that hurt…Rice?…What she did?

Yesterday at 6:30pm

Kris M. Agard that was very deep Susan, well said

Yesterday at 6:34pm

Gordon Chamberlain Actually some men will opress any man, woman or child that they can. They are not selective in the application of ruthless, murderous greed. The petroleum and coal corporations are not selective in who planet they are destabilising the climate off.

Yesterday at 7:15pm

Brendan Pinto Not all isms follow that rule. What about jism?

Yesterday at 7:26pm

Asif Rahman The attacks on the innocent lives – more specifically those of hot alien warrior babes – of Pandora was totally uncalled for. I mean where on Earth would those idiots find such gorgeous women?

Yesterday at 8:23pm

Dan Mick Sorry Susan, did you just say sexism can’t happen against men? Ever? And that I am a sexist because Darcy innacurately and unfairly singled out men in an attempt to impress some girl? You paid for your education, Susan?

“Isms” exist where one single person is persecuted. A racist comment is racist no matter what race says what to whoever.. same with sexism. Sociology has nothing to do with it–that’s just your left wing victim mentality looking for a big powerful enemy conspiracy (of men). Don’t forget the victims in your rush to blame men for whatever unhappiness you have.

And patriarchy doesn’t give me any privileges… If I am going to be labeled as an evil sexist man–simply because I am a man, shouldn’t I get some of the privileges? I want a refund.

Yesterday at 9:17pm ·

Dan Mick Actually, Gordon, some women will opress any man, woman or child that they can–I’ve known some.

You wouldn’t say “some black’s attack children…” without expecting to be called a racist. So stop slagging men, when INDIVIDUALS from both sexes, all races, nationalities, languages and sexual orientations and lifestyles, are equally capable of disgusting brutality.

Yesterday at 9:22pm ·

Asha Philar Thanks for posting this Darcy! You’re one of the good ones for trying to keep other men accountable for their actions 🙂

Hope you had a great Christmas and are doing well, wherever you are

Yesterday at 10:17pm

Rudi Budiarto So what is the source or cause of violence?

Yesterday at 11:16pm

Dave Blair Some spirited dialogue – violence, oppression and control of others for personal gain/power are common and problematic in our societies. Beyond that they are never of any redeeming value. That is a central belief a lot of people share, but in efforts to change society, prevent violence and create true equality we aggressively adopt the ‘blame game’, who is the worst, and other expressions of things incongruent with a world we can all appreciate, aspire to and/or respect AND are not helpful and reflect continuation of the abuse of power, control and privilege.

There are some good intentions out there and people who care about people, so dividing ourselves in argument about this is counter-productive.

I Know Dan, and share a profession of sorts, and know he does not take this lightly. Change starts with each of us modelling that kind of great respect for all, not condoning abuse and caring for each other. Perhaps ET said it best, “be good”.

If you really want to understand the issue from a empirically validated and best practise perspective – here is a good starting point, internationally accepted and supported

http://www.actiononviolence.com/aov/files/WAVE_Report_2005.pdf

If you want additional info contact me at daveblair at shaw.ca

Yesterday at 11:19pm

Dave Blair Abuse of power, often motivated by control of others for personal gain, indifference to the suffering and needs of others, learned, perpetuated and supported by sociological/cultural factors including parenting, media, politics and the economic system. Exacerbated by the acceptance of violence at many, MANY levels and the lack of a cultural value behind respect and caring for others. Ugly ain’t it?

Yesterday at 11:28pm

Rudi Budiarto So would you say that tiger is more violence or aggresive then say a rabbit? I am wondering if nature play a big role in this behavior. I notice that these days I haven’t seen many people who got badly bitten by dogs because they selectively breed only dogs that is not violence.

Yesterday at 11:40pm

Dan Mick Asha, shouldn’t women be accountable for their violent actions as well? Why just the men?

10 hours ago

(Leave your own comments at the bottom)

I am sure that most of you can label a few of the men and women above as “feminists”.  This real facebook wall post (seriously) demonstrates why I do not, and will never, call myself a “feminist”.

I see in the above exchange, two viewpoints, and then what Dave Blair wrote.  I want a system without prejudice or privilege–equal opportunity for all, and these so-called  “feminists” above, want to permanently label women as helpless victims of men, and label all men as victimizers that owe women some sort of penance and retribution.  That’s controlling behavior… abusive behavior… dominant behavior… feminist behavior???

I always thought feminism was a movement that has gained in some parts of the world a degree of political, social, economic and legal equality to men, and that continues to fight for full equality around the world.  Right?  These are the good feminists.  Every true libertarian is one of these type of real feminists.  I wish real feminists would change their name or sue the man-hating bitches that falsely call themselves feminists.  I hope they feel better about their own selfish controlling behavior as they blame men for the same crimes.

The so-called “feminists” above, like Darcy, don’t want equality at all.  They want to create injustices as payback for other injustices.  They want to sit on a throne pointing at all the evil-doers, as their ego feels a sense of purpose and superiority.  No thanks.  You don’t create utopia that way, you create nightmares, resentment, hatred, corruption, violence and sexism.  That is the road to power–not healing.

Many men have done many terrible things–I know personally.  The statistics from last year say that murders involving no men whatsoever (woman on woman) only comprise a few percent of the total murders.  But that was last year (And the year before, and the year before…).  But, next year everyone has the ability to make better choices and should not be prejudged.

My perspective is one of individuality.  Theirs? Collectivism (lefty weirdness).  The lefties can’t separate the individual from the group.  For instance, everything bad a man does to a woman is done to all women.  The good is always an isolate incident by “one of the (few) good ones”.  If that’s not prejudice…

I am sorry that men have hurt you Darcy, Susan, and Asha, but don’t blame me and even those yet to be born, for what happened to you.  No amount of anger or blame will get you anywhere you want to be.  I know about the effects of violence, domination, hierarchy and anger.  Let it all go.

Moving on now…

Why is the Green Party of Ontario Director of Policy and Communications, Darcy Higgins, and the Member at Large for the Ontario NDP Women’s Committee, Susan Gapka making sexist statements? and getting away with it?!  Please admit your error, Darcy and Susan.

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5 responses to “Lefty Man-haters

  1. Anonymous Man

    Dan, I think they are correct.

    Us men, on average, tend to be more violent and evil. In the last decade, as described by Darcy, that was certainly the case.

    Perhaps, the major problem with feminism has been aiming to have women treated equally to men, when perhaps it should have been to have men act more like women.

  2. I also write about stats of men vs. women in relation to violence… So why are you only agreeing with them if that is your example?

    Men have traditionally been more violent. Evil? Whole other blog dude. And don’t call me evil. That’s sexism. Fuck man.

    And did you seriously just write, “the major problem with feminism has been aiming to have women treated equally to men…” ? Wow. Fucking amazing.

  3. I don’t really find this post helpful. If the point is just to use a ‘strawman’ argument by extrapolating a meaning from Darcy’s facebook status in order to advance your own opinions at the cost of fairness to him, I guess you nailed it.

    But if you are really wanting to talk about realistic and rational ways that men can work with women to minimise violence then polemic diatribes aren’t really the best place to start.

    If you do a follow-up post, it would be interesting to see your thoughts on the White Ribbon Campaign. Its harder to call them “man-hating bitches” when it is an organisation run by men. See their FAQ:

    Q: Does this mean you think that men are bad?
    A: We do not think that men are naturally violent and we don’t think that men are bad, however we do think all men have roles and responsibilities in ending violence against women. The majority of men are not physically violent. Researchers tell us many past cultures had little or no violence.

    At the same time, we do think that some men have learned to express their anger or insecurity through violence. Far too many men have come to believe that violence against a woman, child or another man is an acceptable way to control another person, especially an intimate partner.

    By remaining silent about these things, we allow other men to poison our work, schools and homes.

    The good news is that more and more men and boys want to make a difference. Caring men are tired of the sexism that hurts the women around them. Caring men are also concerned with the impact of this violence on the lives of men and boys.

    (via http://www.whiteribbon.ca/about_us/#8)

  4. JH,

    What is unfair about asking for a single standard for men and women? I thought that is what feminists (like you incorrectly claim to be, JH) wanted–equality, right?. You seem to just want to point out flaws in men. All of your statements should read “people”.

    eg. “all men have roles and responsibilities in ending violence against women” NO! All PEOPLE have a responsibility to end violence. Not just men, and not just against women. Can you see how sexist you are, JH?

    You also imply that I call all people who claim to be feminists “man hating bitches”. Read my post again and you will see I wrote the opposite.

    Everything you say about how men learn violence, is true for women too. Do you feel better when you single out men as who are the sole cause of all violence?

    “Caring men are tired of the sexism that hurts the women” NO! Caring PEOPLE are tired of sexism against men and women! Only lefty man-hating bitches only care about ending violence only against women. You are incredibly sexist, JH.

  5. Since when is the GPO lefy?

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